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Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 228	Posted - 2011.11.05 05:22:00 - [1] - Quote Just wanted to give a quick report on the talos. fit 8x neutron blasters, 10mn mwd II, sebo and not telling, lows - not telling rigs - not telling All i can say is DAMN that sucker hits hard. i mean really hits hard. However for some really small annoying targets i would like to see mabye a 25m drone bay just for protection. Other than that, what i am using it for it works very nicely. I should also mention - I have a specific hardwire set and booster I use. So that's why the talos as a blaster boat works for me.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 229	Posted - 2011.11.05 16:53:00 - [2] - Quote To the above posts, I never said i couldnt hit frigates or other small ships, I just said drones would make it easier to hit them. I will give you a hint though. I was hyped up on mindlfood and drop boosters at the time i used it.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 230	Posted - 2011.11.06 01:11:00 - [3] - Quote ok after a longer day of testing the talos i have more to say about it. PVE - MISSIONS - there are a lot of rats it has trouble hitting specifically - cartel rats - vipers / webbers spider drones. guardian scouts. While a technique of kiting usually works on frigs once you get webbed you are basically dead in the water, as you cannot break free to be able to keep rats transversal low. Mind you this is while under the influence of combat boosters. Recommendation - 25m-¦ drone bay. PVE - non missions Non mission style pve the talos performs well using null ammo for that super falloff. however other ammos seem meh when using it for non mission pve. Tracking was not an issue for most things in there as they all went pop before they hit my ship. However there are some rats that were annoying and loved to really stay at range. Recommendation - inspect small increase in fall off. PVP - Small gang LOL - with rapier support or lokis gahh this thing will rip your face off. With an AB it does pretty decent of hunting down targets and really just ruining the day of my corp mates. The speed with the ab is nice and even with a 1600 on it, great acceleration. PVP - ganking. dies laughing im going to be a rich man
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 230	Posted - 2011.11.06 16:16:00 - [4] - Quote Rip Minner wrote: Talos Make it a drone boat Umm no, we already have the myrmidon, which has a massive win on passive shield or armor tank, plus is a great utility wagon in pvp. We dont need another drone boat. now @ the guy who quoted me about the talos as mission rats. I was simply stating i was trying it out in a variety of ways, like most players do and just stating what i found out when trying it in those methods, remember when testing you have to think outside of the box. :glados: Now as for the tank.- nothing wrong with it. you are going to max fire power at the expense of tanking. It's like the stealth bomber lots of boom but also shatters. Try it with a full omni resist tank in the lows and put damage rigs in. Just one more thing on the talos - the speed is great, and the fact it is cap stable with a pvp fit on is nice also. PS - i had not fitting problems on the talos - for those of you who do. check your hardwire slots 6 and 10. engineering and gunnery implants respectively.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 230	Posted - 2011.11.06 16:45:00 - [5] - Quote TC - try the slot 10 implant for gunnery - 3% reduce cpu need for all turrets. it should all fit then. Zainou 'Gnome' KZA1000,
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 230	Posted - 2011.11.06 22:25:00 - [6] - Quote Raimo wrote: Agreed on the Talos: Zendoren wrote: P.S. Don't make it a drone boat like a mini domi. Give it a drone bay like every other Tech 1 Gallente boat in the game! (Hell, even 5 lights would be better than nothing) Quoting this 5 lights would help it out a lot. We seriously dont need another drone boat. If you want one, go buy an ishtar or a dominix.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 230	Posted - 2011.11.06 22:30:00 - [7] - Quote PinkKnife wrote: Jack Dant wrote: Just writing to defend the cap bonus on the oracle. Since it already gets a cap use reduction from the role bonus, the extra cap bonus is incredibly powerful. It is stable out of the box with megapulses and 3 HS. With a t2 mwd, you only need a cap booster to run the mwd. And that is useful in how many pvp situations? I've never had a pvp encounter where I needed to be cap stable, so only if you're ratting is it even useful. In exchange for something else, say tracking boosts, where it is useful in every situation, we get a second, redundant cap usage bonus for no real reason. No other ship is cap stable on the amarr side out of the box, what does that tell you about its bonuses except that one is useless. Even more so, it blatantly states the role bonus of 50% as if CCP is saying, oh, we could just increase this to 60, but we didn't want to give you a chance to outshine the overpowered tornado which gets insane bonuses. here is the thing, fly the 3 amarr battleships fit them the same. you will notice that w/o the cap use bonus the abbadon's cap will dry up faster than the apocs and geddons using muli freq. With this in mind. Shrink the capacitor to the size of the harbingers. W/O that cap bonus you might get 4 maybe 5 cycles off before your cap goes to 0. you need that cap bonus on the ship or you will have no cap on your ship. If you get into an extended fight what are you going to do if you dont have that bonus.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 231	Posted - 2011.11.07 07:32:00 - [8] - Quote revision 3 for talos. 20 more cpu 25m drone bay 7.5% to tracking. Initial oracle change 10% bonus to 5% and add a 5% tracking bonus. add 15 to cpu. Initial tornado - +10% to powergrid.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 234	Posted - 2011.11.07 18:31:00 - [9] - Quote Has anyone else tried a nano / gank fit of these on capital yet? Been playing around with small groups of these. Vs fighters, - really fast at popping them vs drones - ouch im on fire. Time takign out a capital - about 10+ mins on a archon - no repping on the archon, 6 tier 3's. more info as i get more people to test it.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 234	Posted - 2011.11.07 22:53:00 - [10] - Quote incrase the speed of the talos just a big, and maybe give it a drone bay.

Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 243	Posted - 2011.11.22 00:13:00 - [11] - Quote Why are people complaining about sacrificing tank for a web? This is not a solo game. its a massive multiplayer game. Just pay one of your corp mates to fly around in a rifter with some webs to slow down your targets.

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